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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.15 09:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Exhumer ganks are at a record low.
I have a lot of exhumers for you to gank.
- Only exhumers
- Untanked (I promise)
- Not talking about Skiffs (I promise)
Did I mention that those exhumers are not max buffer Skiffs?
Deal? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 11:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:You could easily tank all three exhumers way past the point of being unprofitable pre buff. The irony here is that we were calling for a PG/CPU buff not an EHP buff.
One Catalyst could easily destroy tanked Retriever and have time to get tanked Procurer to structure after that. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 11:43:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:You could easily tank all three exhumers way past the point of being unprofitable pre buff. The irony here is that we were calling for a PG/CPU buff not an EHP buff. One Catalyst could easily destroy tanked Retriever and have time to get tanked Procurer to structure after that. You overestimate the glorious power of the Catalyst, a properly tanked Procuror can hit close to 62k EHP and will quite happily shrug off multiple Catalysts to survive way past Concord response time.
Nope, at least not without officer mods.
Keywords: pre buff |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 13:39:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:I generally see 70% Mackinaws and Retrievers if not more. If a system has been dealing with sustained ganking operations you start to see Skiffs and Procs, and a smattering of hard-tanked Macks. Hulks are a rare treat found occasionally in belts. Don't think I've seen a single Covetor yet.
If miner mines alone with just one ship, why should he/she use Hulk instead of Mack? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 13:58:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:they just can't do it for profit
- Build Mackinaw
- Sell Mackinaw to miner (+ 180M)
- Build 3 Catalysts and T2 mods for them (- 10M)
+170M at this point
- Gank Mackinaw
- You get 12-15M from loot and 25M from salvage
Profit: 207M - 210M
Problem solved. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:16:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:you know you just typed out a whole load of crap, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:53:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Kate stark wrote:they just can't do it for profit - Build Mackinaw - Sell Mackinaw to miner (+ 180M) You make a 100% profit on Macks? No manufacturing or raw material costs whatsoever? Profit margin on a Mack is approximately 8 million or so (knocking off 5 form the 13 raw for the datacore costs. Assuming no use of Decryptors).
You forgot that some people can get Tech for free. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:08:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Eh, don't bother. Jorma has been posting for years now.
Wasn' t the sharpest tool in the shed before, nothings changed.
Tutoring Jorma in economics is like showing a chicken the Space Shuttle.
For you economy means "only lazy people can earn money".
In other words (in EVE):
Economy: ganker gets profit
Non-economy: miner gets profit |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:45:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:14:00 -
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Lascivit Mercator wrote:why every mining op doesn't include a scimmy and a falcon/rook is beyond me...
Falcon is a bad ship for anything like that.
Mostly because you have massive targeting delay after decloaking = gank is already over before Falcon gets target lock.
Rook? What? You want to shoot gankers? Try 800mm Nado instead = even max fitted Catalyst goes down with two volleys of RF Fusion L. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:29:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:It won't last.
True, but you can't expect much from quad Gyro quad SeBo Nado. If someone wants it destroyed, not much tank to stop them. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:13:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Lascivit Mercator wrote:why every mining op doesn't include a scimmy and a falcon/rook is beyond me... because they aren't mining? bit of a give away.. MINING op.
But it is a very good way to test how smart or stupid ganker (yes, they work solo, no team spirit) actually is.
Though I have yet to see successful anti-gank. They are usually too smart or underestimate capabilities of their ships. |
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